PvX
Ashes of Creation 是一款 PvX 游戏。 PvP 和 PvE 的要素都会自然接触得到,[2][3][4] 而玩家将不太可能“纯玩”PvP 或 PvE。[4]
- 游戏中 PvP 和 PvE 之间将存在平衡。[4]
- 所有数值都会影响玩家的 PvX 战斗能力。[5]
- 伺服器将不会以 PvE 和 PvP 区分,但有些伺服器将可能较著着重 PvP。[3][6]
- 装备将不会以 PvE 和 PvP 区分。[7]
- 角色或将需要透过 PvE 才能成长。[4]
我们有很清晰的目标和理念,也明白不会得到所有人的欢心。然而 PvE 和 PvP 内容相辆相成,它们都是玩家投放时间成长发展的方向,也让玩家重视随之而来的得失,从而诱发玩家的感情,而这样的元素正是由 PvP 带来的。因此我们很清楚我们的目标就是:风险与回报的关系、以及追求成就的思维。不会每个人都是赢家,而这是没问题的。[8] – Steven Sharif
PvP
PvP (玩家对战) 是 Ashes of Creation 产生改变的关键要素。[12] 从商队战斗以至在广阔的世界以国王和王后之名而战,皆旨在促成有意义的玩家对战。[13]
正因为玩家有不同的诱因,正因为玩家有不同的追求,冲突必不可避。不同玩家将会渴求不同的体验,因而产生的冲突将缔造更庞大、更好玩的体验。纷争过后,万物重生 — 是贯彻整个游戏的核心主题。[14] – Jeffrey Bard
Ashes of Creation 有很多原因促使玩家参与野外 PvP。[15]
我们的标记系统虽然会让 PvP 玩家进入腐化状态,但 PvP 仍会存在。游戏有大量原因促使玩家在开放世界参与 PvP:稀缺的资源、位于开玩世界的狩猎场、商队运输、攻城战、公会战等等。[15] – Steven Sharif
死亡惩罚将不适用于存在特定目标的活动 (例如商队、公会战、攻城战)。[16]
Opt-in PvP battlegrounds
战场是在开放世界进行的 PvP 战斗。[17] 游戏内有开放世界 PvP 区域,区域内的玩家会被标记成战斗员 (purple)。[18]
非战斗员 (绿色)玩家进入开放世界战场时,会自动被标记成战斗员。标记在离开战场后仍会持续一定时间。[24]
死亡惩罚将不适用于存在特定目标的活动 (例如商队、公会战、节点战)。[16]
Our castle system, our sieges against nodes, the caravan system, battlegrounds that exist, guild wars: We want there to be a meaning to this conflict. We want players to actually have some skin in the game when it comes to participating in PvP.[14] – Steven Sharif
Background
While Ashes of Creation took inspiration from Lineage II (and other games) it has also addressed several flaws in the implementation of those games.[25][26][27][28] The approach of the flagging system in Ashes of Creation is to further disincentivize griefing while still allowing the system to keep risk relevant in the open-world setting.[25]
- First and foremost, PvP in Ashes exists in both opt-in systems and events, as well as our open world flagging system. And while it is true that I enjoyed and took much inspiration from games like Lineage 2, we have innovated and adapted our approach to Ashes’ flagging system in order to further disincentivize griefing while still allowing the system to keep risk relevant in the open world setting. The overwhelming majority of player’s experiences with PvP in Ashes will be through consensual systems like caravans, sieges, wars, the open sea and other events. Players will make a choice to participate in those systems or not. And if they choose to participate there will be significant rewards for success.[25] – Steven Sharif
- PvP in Ashes of Creation exists in both opt-in systems and events as well as open-world PvP with a flagging (and corruption) system.[25]
- In the open world, when competing for the scarcity of resources, raids, dungeons and or hunting grounds, an important element of risk vs reward is introduced through our flagging system. Players must be aware of their surroundings and the reputation of other players who may be in proximity. The flagging system is intended to always provide an element of risk in all settings, but also architected to ensure that griefing and PK’ing is almost never worth it. The subtleties of this system are complex, which is of course why it will require considerable testing and feedback.[25] – Steven Sharif
- Corruption gain takes into account level disparity between the attacker and the player that was killed. The greater the disparity the higher the corruption accrued.[26][29][30][31][24] Corruption penalties occur as the corruption is gained.[32]
- These are all things that I've changed in the system that help to safeguard some of those loopholes. Now of course, as we said, we can't and we don't want to 100% remove the ability for that risk to be alive- for that risk to be realized. But what we do want to do is make sure that those occasions are few and infrequent, and are not the majority of a player experience, let's say in the open world; and we do so by incorporating all of those risks and costs into a decision to gain corruption and then PK another player in the open world. It's just not going to be done often and that is my expectation and opinion. It's also the goal of the system is that griefing is not a viable option or play style. And as a result of that desire for the system, we will fine tune it in such a way through testing that that outcome is achieved. And that is the intent and purpose of the design.[33] – Steven Sharif
- Corruption score has a scaling impact on skill and stat dampening that will ultimately make them ineffective at PvP combat.[32][29][33][34][26][30][27][28][35][36][37][38][24]
- Working corruption off through XP grinding takes significantly longer than Lineage II.[26]
- There is also a bounty system that reveals corrupt player locations on the map.[26][27][39][40]
- Abilities with CC effects do not apply to non-combatants. This prevents players from opening attacks that stun unflagged players.[26]
- Players who heal, buff, or otherwise support corrupted players will flag as combatants.[33][41][42][43]
- There is a 60 second timer to logout while corrupt. Force-disconnecting the client during the cooldown will leave the character in-game.[33][44]
PvP quests
There will be PvP quests in Ashes of Creation.[45]
- There are quests that interact with PvP. PvP is not a secondary component of the game. PvP is an equitable component of the game. Remember we are a PvX game, which means that we emphasize both PvE quest lines and story modes and content as well as PvP. It is an intended design theory for Ashes of Creation that the world is not filled with just your friends. The world is also filled with adversaries; and because of that we will provide opportunities to encourage social friction; and that may be in the form of these PvP oriented questlines.[45] – Steven Sharif
开放世界
Ashes of Creation will be a seamless open-world experience.[48]
There will be an approximately 80/20 split between open world vs instanced encounters.[49][50][47][51][52]
- Around 80% of the content is open-world, where healthy competition is an instigator for player friction; for potential cooperation; for the ability to yield alliances; and the political theater that comes with it. This is an intended part of the PvX design of Ashes of Creation.[49][53][50]
- In situations where we want to contain a particular type of raid, we will utilize instancing; and that can protect certain engagements with certain bosses. But that's really more on the 20% of the scenarios will have instancing protection like that. Around 80% of the content is open-world, where competition is- healthy competition is an instigator for soft player friction; for potential cooperation; for the ability to yield alliances; and the political theater that comes with it. So that's an intended part of the PvX design of Ashes. It's a core philosophical point. And just to be clear, that is not for everyone. We are not trying to make a product that appeals to every MMO gamer. That's impossible; and so we've been very upfront and forthright with what we are trying to accomplish and what our core pillars of philosophical design are.[50] – Steven Sharif
- Castle and node sieges may contain instanced locations where specific groups can participate in certain objective-based waypoints.[54]
- 地下城 and raids will maintain an open world feel while also capitalizing on the benefits of instanced mechanics.[55] Instancing is only going to happen in certain dungeons where the desire is to have greater narrative appeal.[50][56] Outside of these and arenas there will not be too much instancing anywhere else.[48]
- There will be some open dungeons that have bosses at the end of the dungeons. There will be some open dungeons that just have a multitude of dungeon bosses, not necessarily world raids or something; and there will be lots of different rooms and they'll be progressive in the sense that in the earlier parts of the dungeon they'll be lower level and then at the later parts of the dungeons deeper down they'll be higher level and more difficult; and that creates again I think an ecosystem of where players across a multitude of levels have an opportunity to coexist within certain areas of the world; and that's good from a social dynamic. It's good from a recruitment dynamic. It's good from just a liveliness and relevance of particular areas. So that you don't end up with these locations that once you pass a certain level like it's empty.[57] – Steven Sharif
- We're probably going to do instancing only in certain dungeons and in arenas. You probably won't see instancing too much anywhere else. What you see is gonna be what you get.[48] – Jeffrey Bard
The PvP flagging and corruption system is in place to safeguard against griefing without limiting opportunities for open conflict.[58][50][59]
- Healthy competition is seen as an instigator for player friction; for potential cooperation; for the ability to yield alliances; and the political theater that comes with it. This is an intended part of the PvX design of Ashes of Creation.[58][50]
- This friction presents an opportunity to engage in the political aspects of the game, which is the lifeblood of what keeps players interested and invested in the game.[58][50][57]
- Q: When you reach the bosses in [open world] dungeons can you be jumped?
- A: For the most part if there are bosses at the end of dungeons, it is possible for you to get jumped.[57] – Steven Sharif
- Q: In an open world dungeon, what prevents others from just waiting until you're at the boss and then killing you and taking your boss's loot? What prevents mega guilds from just owning an area and preventing you from accessing or enjoying it?
- A: In a majority of cases, we do not want to prevent another group from engaging potentially in PvP. We disincentivize it by creating safeguards within the flagging system that make that decision very concerning for the people that might go corrupt; and if you're in the large enough group of numbers I doubt you're going to experience that unless there's some rivalry between guilds. In which case there's apparatuses like Guild Wars that are more opt-in. You can drop guild tag if you want. But anyways, the competitive nature of this environment is a PvX element.[50] – Steven Sharif
狩猎场
狩猎场 are open-world PvP corruption-enabled areas that encompass most of the map.[61]
- Hunting grounds refer to killing monsters or NPCs in the open-world.[61][62]
- This also refers to contesting resources.[63]
One of the interesting components of Ashes of Creation and our flagging system is that it presents the potential for two conflicting parties to have open conflict in the open world over pretty much anything that they may want or disagree with; and if that pertains to a hunting ground, not just the caravan or the castles or the nodes or whatever, it can exist in that area.[59] – Steven Sharif
Outside of PvP for certain things like caravans, sieges of nodes and/or castles is that you're going to have those open-world hunting ground fights that may occur. You're going to have resources fights that may occur. You're going to have political fights that may occur between members of guilds; and we're taking the guild politics to a whole new direction in regards to playing those conflicts out.[63] – Steven Sharif
Our PvP mechanics follow a flagging system, as well as static PvP zones at certain points of interest; fight for control over cities, castles, caravans, or hunting grounds. Our PvP is designed to offer the players a well-balanced and fair world to shape through the pen, or sword should they choose.[64]
其他
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